2004
Identifying & explaining
Eliza Jones: I always used to hear about k’edzo kkaatseeyh [animal leg-skin pants with attached boots]. I think this is k’edzo kkaatseeyh.
Judy Woods: Mm-hmm, fur pants.
Eliza Jones: Yes, it covers the foot and your whole legs and all [to waist]. Do you have a word for these pants?
Trimble Gilbert: Dazhoo thał.
(Fur pants.)
Eliza Jones: People traveling would wear the k’edzo kkaatseeyh. The other thing that men had before they had snow pants and stuff is just the leggings—leggings without the boots. So, did you have those kinds up there too? You know, just to cover the leg? And you wear it over your boots, so you can take it off.
And they wear it especially when they’re traveling and when it’s cold.
Trimble Gilbert: Yes, it’s really good for your knees.
Design
Judy Woods: Tlekk.
(Fringe.)
Eliza Jones: Yes, nedenaadletlekk [it is fringed]. Normally, these [beaded fringe] would be the fringed caribou. But I guess since this is a model, they used beads. And it looks like they dyed this [skin] with something red, maybe kk’es. Kk’es is “alder.” It makes a really dark red dye.
Judy Woods: That’s what they use for moose mittens and stuff. They dye that with alder. They leave it in water, bark and stuff, and it turns orange. Then they soak them [skins], and it makes them, any of that moosekin stuff, dyes it this color.
Phillip Arrow: I see this [vertical line down front of pant leg] is the same color as that one [tunic].
Eliza Jones: The only difference is this parka was dyed and that one [pants] is more a natural color.
Fur type
Trimble Gilbert: What kind of fur is that [inside tunic]?
Judy Woods: Looks like muskrat or marten.
Eliza Jones: This is red. It’s not muskrat, too red. It’s not mountain squirrel. Mountain squirrel wouldn’t be red. How about ground hog?
Trimble Gilbert: Groundhog is different too. Groundhog is grey.
Eliza Jones: It wouldn’t’ be reindeer.
Trimble Gilbert: Maybe young one.
Eliza Jones: Maybe it’s an unborn animal of some kind, maybe caribou.
I think it’s an unborn calf.
Trimble Gilbert: Yes, caribou or moose. The tail is right there.
Eliza Jones: Oh, could be, yes, because this is the—
Trimble Gilbert: White.
Eliza Jones: Yes, around the tail. So unborn fawn, caribou fawn.
Trimble Gilbert: What kind of fur is this [pants interior] anyway?
Eliza Jones: I think it’s the same thing. It’s just faded, see?
Trimble Gilbert: Yes.