2003
Materials
Daria Dirks: What the bottom is made of, the soles?
Mary Bourdukofsky: It’s flipper.
Aron Crowell: How can you tell it’s flipper?
Mary Bourdukofsky: The way the grain, that’s the way the flippers look. They’re not smooth.
Maria Turnpaugh: This doesn’t look like flipper to me. Maybe it’s leather.
Daria Dirks: They colored it some way. You can’t even see the seams on the bottom part.
Mary Bourdukofsky: It’s sewn from inside.
Vlass Shabolin: It must have been pretty soft when they worked on it in order for them to turn it inside out, because it’s got a liner in there.
Aron Crowell: They’re lined with red cloth.
Daria Dirks: That’s different fur on top?
Mary Bourdukofsky: That’s hair seal.
Daria Dirks: The trim is fancier than the other pair and more detail on it.
Maria Turnpaugh: See that sewing again?
Mary Bourdukofsky: To me it looks like it’s trimming that they got from Russia. Russians used to trade things to the Natives. Look how shiny the bottom is.
Wearing
Daria Dirks: What’s the Aleut word for this?
Mary Bourdukofsky: I think this is what they used to call sapuuga{ [men’s knee-high boot]. It’s not an Aleut word, it’s a Russian word. My dad always used to call his boots sapuuga{.
Aron Crowell: Were his boots anything like this?
Mary Bourdukofsky: No. As I was growing up I didn’t see homemade [boots], but he told a story about it.
Maria Turnpaugh: They’d be shorter, like this [midpoint of boot upper]. But this is for special—for a uniform, a Russian general or whoever.
Vlass Shabolin: A chief or somebody.
Daria Dirks: Important?
Vlass Shabolin: Yes, maybe a ship captain, and he had somebody make it for him.
Aron Crowell: This [museum catalog card] says, “Boots from Aleutian chief.”
Daria Dirks: An Aleut chief, that probably explains why this has more designs on it than the other ones. This guy had long legs.
Maria Turnpaugh: This would have gone to their knees, because the Aleut legs are [laughs] .
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Vlass Shabolin: They are short. These would have looked like hip boots [laughs]!
Mary Bourdukofsky: Must have been a pretty tall chief.
Daria Dirks: A lot taller than me! [Laughter.]